3D on MSX

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Door Leo

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17-06-2009, 16:38

Hi,

I am looking for the bests 3D games/demo on MSX, the ones that really pushes the msx to its (low...) limits in the 3D. I wonder how many polygons can be handled on a turboR versus MSX2.

I remember playing elite on MSX1 tape and also a msx2 demo with a cube with each face filled.
Other inputs ??

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Van MäSäXi

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17-06-2009, 16:43

North Sea Helicopter
Cosmic Shock absorber
Return of Jelda

Van wolf_

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17-06-2009, 16:49

For polygon-based 3D, the VDP is not on your side..

Van OeiOeiVogeltje

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17-06-2009, 16:58

Elite?

Van st1mpy

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17-06-2009, 17:52

Doom style raycasting?

Van Leo

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17-06-2009, 18:28

Elite is an old but but very entertaining game , in the space you have to buy/sell/trade/fight,
accomplishin miison : very intersting and there was some 3D with lines.

Van Leo

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17-06-2009, 18:30

For polygon-based 3D, the VDP is not on your side..
Well VDP accounts for polygon filling only not 3D calculation , optimzation could be to calculate 3D tranformation while VDP is busy drawing a line of the polygon...

Van Leo

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17-06-2009, 18:46

North Sea Helicopter
Cosmic Shock absorber
Return of Jelda

thanks for the note , all these games are msx1 with no polygons , only lines, and slow ...
are the msx limitss reached with these titles ?

Van NYYRIKKI

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17-06-2009, 18:51

In Elite only sun has filled graphics IIRC...

Some good candidates definately worth to check out:

MSX1: Red Zone
MSX2: http://www.msx.org/Realtime-texturemapped-3D-for-MSX2.newspost2773.html
MSX tR: F-Nano2

Check out also:
http://www.msx.org/forumtopic7881.html
http://www.msx.org/forumtopic1172.html

Van enribar

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17-06-2009, 19:00

Bosconian 3D by Microtech, for MSX Turbo R

Van JohnHassink

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17-06-2009, 19:26

@ Leo: Return to Jelda is for MSX2 or higher, but indeed slow and only lines nonetheless.

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