newbie: disk offline....is it broken?

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Door laurentdz

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29-07-2010, 19:59

I tried to read a disk
i can hear and see the light
but it says disk offline

is my disk reader broken or can it be something else?
thanks

i have a philipps VG8235

also, I have MSX BASIC version 2.1

is it good or shouuld I use MX DOS
and if so
how do I change that?

sorry I am a newbie

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Van Rataplan

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29-07-2010, 20:06

Could be broken, but depends on what you are trying to read here. The VG8235 only has a single-sided drive (unless it's a modded machine) which means you can only read 360k (one side) of a floppy. Most MSX'es however have a double sided drive, which means you might very well be trying to read a double sided disk. Try formatting a spare floppy to see if your drive works at all. To do so, just startup your msx and in basic type

call format <enter>

and follow on-screen instructions. Post results, after that we can tell more I guess. Good luck!

Van Manuel

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29-07-2010, 20:31

Van laurentdz

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29-07-2010, 20:58

how long should it take to format.?...it has been busy for 5 or 10 min, nowBig smile

Van Rataplan

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29-07-2010, 21:04

floppy format? hmm... 80 tracks, a bit more than a second/track, so one and a half minute? Try another floppy. Can you actually hear the floppy rotating? The diskdrive itself will rotate, but ofcourse the disk should too. If not, your floppy drive belt is most probably broken/worn out. Easy to replace, a bit harder to come by these days. Repair-Bas might have a few kilometers of these though Smile

Van Manuel

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29-07-2010, 22:21

If it has problems, I'd expect it to give an error like "Disk offline" or "Disk I/O error".

Van Repair-Bas

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29-07-2010, 22:32

Van tiziano.s.marcozzi

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28-01-2018, 11:15

same for me today...tried to run Grey Wolf on my vg 8235 but...disk offline, is there a way to repair it?

Van Warchild

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28-01-2018, 14:32

@tiziano: I assume you have a modded 8235 to read 720k disks. Have you tried with another floppy? I had same problem with Grey Wolf, the disk drive sounded bad and didn't work. First I thought that disk drive was dead. But tested with other disks and the drive worked fine. So the problem may be on the game disk. I'm waiting answer from Oniric to change it for a good one, maybe some of the floppies used were no ok. I hope is your case.

Van tiziano.s.marcozzi

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02-02-2018, 13:18

it fails to load also the files for Solid Snake and it does sounds very bad. I think it's time to open it and see what the issue is

Van Meits

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02-02-2018, 14:37

Question remains, is your VG8235 modded, does it have a doublesided diskdrive? If it's still original, you can't read doublesided disks.
Easy test. Get a floppydisk which can be emptied and format it. If you don't get the question if it should be double sided or single sided, you have an unmodded singlesided diskdrive. If it does format the disk, your diskdrive is not broken.
With most VG8235s it's easily visible if the diskdrive is still the original singlesided unit since it's a very high drive. If there's a drive that doesn't fill the gap vertically it's modded and might be double sided. If it fits seamlessly you most probably have the original singlesided drive. This drive is belt driven and belts dry out which leads to the disk not spinning anymore, leading to read/write errors.

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