On MSX2, did Space Manbow's shaky border bother you?

No (64 votes) 68.1%
Yes (21 votes) 22.3%
What's Space Manbow? (9 votes) 9.6%
Totaal aantal stemmen: 94

Reacties (19)

Van Manuel

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11-09-2011, 22:58

But it did in Giana Sisters! Tongue

Van Huey

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12-09-2011, 08:46

@manuel: Probably due to the 16 pixel blocking. SM uses 8 pixel blocking.

Van RobertVroemisse

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12-09-2011, 09:31

The shaky borders in Space Manbow are the main reason I wear glasses. Those borders ruined my childhood. Tongue

Van Paulbrk

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12-09-2011, 11:54

because you like to play with the border Tongue

On my game for MSX2, the scroll shakes the border, It is ok because you play with the game not the border, I will not waste sprites to mask the border and uses for the enemies and more things.

Van RobertVroemisse

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12-09-2011, 16:37

I bought a Turbo R especially for that.

No shaky borders for me Tongue

Van KdL

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12-09-2011, 17:14

a simple trick: with msx2 and crt monitor, you can stretch the orizontal width over the screen area! Evil

Van retrocanada76

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12-09-2011, 18:09

I can always put duct tape on the both sides of the screen Smile

Van KdL

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12-09-2011, 18:19

yes!! you can!! hehehe!

Van PingPong

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12-09-2011, 19:42

most television sets have a overscan tolerance so pratically you do not see those artifacts.
And of course this is far better than having a blocking 8 pixel scrolling, like most msx games do.

Van sd_snatcher

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12-09-2011, 21:18

Neither did the Higemaru borders bothered me. And this game is older than Space Manbow. And both Pennant Race 2 and Namcot's Baseball also uses this way of smothscrolling. Certainly all of them got a much smoother gameplay thanks to this. Smile

And really, the overscan took care of the masking part back in the 80s.

Van Manuel

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14-09-2011, 16:06

Pennant Race 2 has a much better MSX2 scrolling engine without the shaky border...

Van PingPong

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14-09-2011, 21:10

@Manuel: what? (about pennant race 2)

Van Manuel

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14-09-2011, 22:49

Never mind, I am completely mistaken.

Van Alex

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16-09-2011, 22:25

I had a turbo R before I got space manbow, so I never saw the shaky borders as I played it on the turbo R as of day 1. Hence the shaky borders could not bother me at all. Thats why I voted 'no'.
On the other hand, would I have played the game on an MSX2, then they would certainly have bothered me and I would have voted 'yes' to this poll.

Van JohnHassink

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17-09-2011, 12:51

Anyone care to explain to the two people new to MSX what Space Manbow is? I'm too tired. Smile
@ two people: welcome!

Van JohnHassink

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21-09-2011, 23:18

This is Space Manbow, including shaky borders:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGlVThoL_YM
welcome to MSX!!! :)

Van Manuel

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22-09-2011, 18:06

This is on a turboR, without shaky borders and with enhancement-patch to make it smoother: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKTzdRq6eOc

Van Samor

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26-09-2011, 09:58

after being used to the MSX1 scrolling of Nemesis, no.

Van Daemos

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06-11-2011, 12:52

I first even thought that the shaky borders are simply MSX. After upgrading to V9958 however I got spoiled and no the borders anoy me Wink