On MSX2, did Space Manbow's shaky border bother you?

By Manuel

Ascended (13364)

11-09-2011, 22:58

But it did in Giana Sisters!

By Huey

Prophet (2632)

12-09-2011, 08:46

@manuel: Probably due to the 16 pixel blocking. SM uses 8 pixel blocking.

By RobertVroemisse

Paragon (1228)

12-09-2011, 09:31

The shaky borders in Space Manbow are the main reason I wear glasses. Those borders ruined my childhood.

By Paulbrk

Hero (611)

12-09-2011, 11:54

because you like to play with the border

On my game for MSX2, the scroll shakes the border, It is ok because you play with the game not the border, I will not waste sprites to mask the border and uses for the enemies and more things.

By RobertVroemisse

Paragon (1228)

12-09-2011, 16:37

I bought a Turbo R especially for that.

No shaky borders for me

By KdL

Paladin (965)

12-09-2011, 17:14

a simple trick: with msx2 and crt monitor, you can stretch the orizontal width over the screen area!

By retrocanada76

Champion (456)

12-09-2011, 18:09

I can always put duct tape on the both sides of the screen

By KdL

Paladin (965)

12-09-2011, 18:19

yes!! you can!! hehehe!

By PingPong

Prophet (2864)

12-09-2011, 19:42

most television sets have a overscan tolerance so pratically you do not see those artifacts.
And of course this is far better than having a blocking 8 pixel scrolling, like most msx games do.

By sd_snatcher

Prophet (2530)

12-09-2011, 21:18

Neither did the Higemaru borders bothered me. And this game is older than Space Manbow. And both Pennant Race 2 and Namcot's Baseball also uses this way of smothscrolling. Certainly all of them got a much smoother gameplay thanks to this.

And really, the overscan took care of the masking part back in the 80s.

By Manuel

Ascended (13364)

14-09-2011, 16:06

Pennant Race 2 has a much better MSX2 scrolling engine without the shaky border...

By PingPong

Prophet (2864)

14-09-2011, 21:10

@Manuel: what? (about pennant race 2)

By Manuel

Ascended (13364)

14-09-2011, 22:49

Never mind, I am completely mistaken.

By Alex

Master (205)

16-09-2011, 22:25

I had a turbo R before I got space manbow, so I never saw the shaky borders as I played it on the turbo R as of day 1. Hence the shaky borders could not bother me at all. Thats why I voted 'no'.
On the other hand, would I have played the game on an MSX2, then they would certainly have bothered me and I would have voted 'yes' to this poll.

By JohnHassink

Ambassador (4880)