Best demos

Scribe (4106)

22-04-2021, 10:55

What are the best demos and programms that shows the possibilities of our systems?
Your opinions for MSX, 2, tR? Sound demos?

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Por meits

Scribe (6571)

22-04-2021, 12:31

From our own scene/history for me that would be

Unknown Reality by NOP
Metal Limit by IOD
Source of Power by ANMA
Dawn of Time by Station
Calculus by Compjoetania TNG
Sphere by Infinite

However I do like the artistic creativity of those demo party groups, who are not per se MSX groups quite a lot. It's just that imho they're all musically weak by only having PSG audio. Traditional MSX scene demos are often loads of scrollers and those demo party groups often are not.

Por wolf_

Ambassador_ (10135)

22-04-2021, 13:13

The MSX-scene had an overreliance on scrolltexts, assuming people are going to sit 'n read all of that. Possibly also because few coders were capable of making multiple parts in which graphics/animations tell a story, instead, they just showed texts telling a story. The MSX-scene didn't quite have the "show, don't tell"-vibe.
Granted, MSX (or rather: the VDP) isn't quite the best demo-system; other systems were better equiped for that. So in a way you couldn't even blame the 90's crowd for making scroll 'n logo stuff.

Por jltursan

Prophet (2619)

22-04-2021, 16:29

And for MSX1, without doubt, BOLD

Por santiontanon

Paragon (1831)

22-04-2021, 17:09

Woah, BOLD is very cool!! Very clever use of the VDP!

Por AxelStone

Prophet (3199)

22-04-2021, 17:22

wolf_ wrote:

The MSX-scene didn't quite have the "show, don't tell"-vibe.

Totally agree, the MSX demos are quite slow compared to other scenes. If we see one of our "holy grails" like Unknown Reality, it's really slow and boring to see (at least for me) with so many interruptions and so much text. A demo needs to be a non-stop effects show.

Por ToriHino

Paladin (925)

22-04-2021, 18:15

jltursan wrote:

And for MSX1, without doubt, BOLD

And for MSX1, from the same creators, MSX Unleashed (although i think BOLD indeed is better, but this one has some nice explanations at the end).

Por bore

Master (182)

22-04-2021, 18:18

For MSX 1 you should also check out io by Logon System

If you really want to do a deep dive you can check out the lists on pouet.net

MSX 1
1. Bold by Dvik & Joyrex
2. io by Logon System
3. Invasion of the big pixels by Noice
4. Riyadh by Bandwagon
5. Alankomaat by Bandwagon
6. Planet of the epas by Traktor
7. Vesikauhu by Bandwagon
8. Amurisus by Lieves!Tuore
9. Atsaas by Lieves!Tuore
10. Merituulen karaisemat by Bandwagon

MSX 2
1. Syntax Infinity by Tulou & Traktor
2. Baltak Rampage by Traktor
3. XV by Hedelmae
4. NOCNOC by Noice
5. Wings by Infinite
6. In Stereo by Digital Sounds System
7. msx girl computing by N.I
8. Sphere by Infinite
9. MSX 20th Anniversary by Abyss Productions
10. Turnix 1 by First Class Software

MSX 2+
1. Sinus scroll demo by Odie
2. Big scroll by Garfield
3. Beastie preview by Instrument Of Darkness
4. apple screen 12

MSX Turbo-R
1. Symbolic Register by N.I
2. To The Future by Nyyrikki
3. V9990 curry demo by N.I
4. Tel by N.I
5. The swiss demo by A.T. Productions
6. Not 2d by N.I
7. COW by Nyyrikki
8. Employee Spin by N.I
9. Sieni Pakottaa by Nyyrikki
10. siesta.bas by N.I

Por santiontanon

Paragon (1831)

22-04-2021, 18:48

Wow, thanks for all the links! I've been watching a few. And I have to say: BOLD, io, Syntax Infinity and Baltak Rampage are amazing! I have no idea how some of the effects were managed on a plain MSX1 or MSX2!

Por ren

Paragon (1947)

22-04-2021, 18:59

@bore Syntax Infinity == 👌👌 Also great PSG tunage by esau there (far, far, far from 'weak' (tsk..) ) (though pretty funny/interesting to see how people apparently feel divided about that @ Pouet's comment section )

Definitely love Factor6/aKi's tune in io as well!

Por hamlet

Scribe (4106)

22-04-2021, 19:39

Yes, and maybe the Luna Clipper movie is the greatest MSX demo of all times. ;)