MSX Game controls

Por Bigby

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04-11-2010, 15:01

What are the usual controls for most MSX games?

The ones I've figured out are:

"1" = P1 start or choose joystick
"2" = P1 choose keyboard
"3" = P2 choose joystick
"4" = P2 choose keyboard

"O" = left
"P"= right
"Q"= up
"A"= down
"Space" = fire

Cursor keys = up, down, left, right

"Return" = start for some games (release ball in some pinball games)
"ESC" = used in some games

"F1 - F4" = used in some games

"Z" = left trigger in pinball games
"RCTRL" = right trigger in pinball games

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Por JohnHassink

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04-11-2010, 15:17

Only games that are lazy conversions of ZX Spectrum titles indeed use the letter keys for controls.
But real MSX games will respond to the cursor (arrow) keys.
This is because Spectrum machines didn't have any cursor keys (LOL).

[SPACEBAR] is usually your 'Firebutton A'.

For button B, some games use [SHIFT].
Others use [GRAPH] (which is [ALT-LEFT] on your PC keyboard).
Konami games often work with [SPACEBAR] and "M" or "N" key.
Some games use "X" and "C".
Compile shooters work with [SHIFT] and "Z".

It depends on the game.

Note: when you are using a PC keyboard, use of a joypad/joystick is STRONGLY recommended;
this because of 'ghosting' which can totally ruin your gaming experience!!!

Por Huey

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04-11-2010, 15:18

"M" for Konami games (2nd button)

Are you planning to play using a Cabinet?

Por Samor

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04-11-2010, 15:44

semi-OT question:

I've noticed that plenty of Japanese Indie PC games usually start their button layout with Z as the primary fire button, X as the second,
or have combinations like Z,X,C,(V),A,S,D,(F).
I was wondering where it originated from; it's not a usual combination in MSX games.

..does it have something to do with PC keyboard lock, such as WASD in shooters instead of arrow keys?

Por Manuel

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04-11-2010, 18:57

Maybe PC-8801 or what is it called again?

Por Bigby

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07-01-2011, 06:09

Is there a key/button that usually brings you back to the title screen?

Por JohnHassink

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07-01-2011, 06:10

Yeah, the reset button. Big smile
Please excuse my little joke, no, generally, there's not.
When there is, it's usually stated in the game itself, like the "Q" or [ESC] etc.

Por Bigby

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07-01-2011, 06:53

LOL!

Right, that's what I thought .

Por Sarcasmic

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07-01-2011, 12:07

this because of 'ghosting' which can totally ruin your gaming experience!!! isn't this just windows lag you are mentioning johnny ?

i tought this ghost keys only happened when a keyboard is used as a hacked interface to wire arcade buttons directly on the keyboard matrix without diodes!
to bypass they ghosting of keys i hacked 2 game pads to interface with the arcade parts!
www.msxposse.com/site/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_DSCF0010.JPG
"poisonic's home build arcade joystick (mostly recycled a old bed ,some old stupid game pads,some black paint,a full color art print and some screws ,of course the new arcade parts,some plexiglass to protect the full color printed image "

Por JohnHassink

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08-01-2011, 13:29

this because of 'ghosting' which can totally ruin your gaming experience!!! isn't this just windows lag you are mentioning johnny ?
I guess not? It's what you can see on cheapo PC keyboards when using cursor keys in combination with other keys. Certain key combinations are impossible.
For instance you cannot do [CURSOR UP] + [CURSOR LEFT] + [SPACEBAR], that kind of things.