MRC doesn't get it - the log after

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Por POISONIC

Paladin (1012)

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19-07-2005, 17:16

@Poisonic: probably the thing that makes the OCM the most interesting, is the fact that if one who masters VHDL code, can add his or her own features to the MSX (for example, create the legendary SCREEN 9 yourself Wink). If you are simply interested in buying an MSX, you should probably not buy the OCM indeed, as it surely is too expensive if seen as nothing more than an (to give in to BiFi) incomplete MSX1.

Programming a FPGA is not so EASY as you say......... you need great programming SKILLS to be a master in making FPGA code its not like writing a simple Program......... everyone is talking like FPGA is easy to master well it isnt.......... its more like making a MSX from loose MSX parts........ if FPGA was so easy..... the 1CHMSX would actualy be a MSX TURBO R in one chip Wink but....... i think it will take another 3 years or more until they get to the turbo r level :0

Por BiFi

Enlighted (4348)

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19-07-2005, 17:23

Rikusu dared to write: WinkAnd - why do you think BiFi opens the log by 'explaining' GuyveR really is the guy to look for when you're out for a friendly chat but now he was angry so this is not how GuyveR normally is - etc.) does not harm any kind of activity in the scene any more than it does now.I need to correct one thing here. That quote is a text GuyveR800 wrote in this MSX Posse forum thread.

Por poke-1,170

Paragon (1768)

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19-07-2005, 17:37

I don't understand why people are complaining so much...listen,if anyone can do better with this 1 chip msx,then why don't u stick your neck out and do something for it? Someone at least is taking the EFFFORT to get this thing off the ground ! And about the choices of what this 1 chip msx can do, that's realy up to ASCII,they create the damn thing,no one here manufactures it... and tape support being part of the msx standard.....yeah...times change, do you load your pc crap from casette too? Noooo you have USB don't you? It's f*cking 2005 !!!
At least there's a big company who can get it done more easily I suppose, and honnestly,if I would be working for ascii and reading all this whining and complaining I'd invest my time in a more healthy hobby... then people obviously don't deserve it and let the msx die out because no one gives things a fair chance

Por msd

Paragon (1472)

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19-07-2005, 17:38

A MSX1 OCM without tape support: O no. when will this stop. Did you know a Turbo r has no tape support? :-) Why is this a isue at all?

Por mars2000you

Enlighted (6182)

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19-07-2005, 17:47

A MSX1 OCM without tape support: O no. when will this stop. Did you know a Turbo r has no tape support? :-) Why is this a isue at all?

I think that you don't understand my comparison : between a MSX1- and a Turbo-R+, the logic way is to prefer the Turbo-R+

Por poke-1,170

Paragon (1768)

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19-07-2005, 17:49

yeah well there's a reason why people have compact flash cards on their msx...saves hassle I suppose

Por msd

Paragon (1472)

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19-07-2005, 17:56

But why do you bring it up everytime about the CAS? It has no relevance what so ever.

Por poke-1,170

Paragon (1768)

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19-07-2005, 17:57

hey anyone interested in the zx spectrum? let's quit this platform and start a healthier scene Wink mars, write an emu, snout : new shirts,
wolf,start composing Wink ^_^

Por Sama

Ambassador (2068)

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19-07-2005, 18:08

That's exactly why there are conflicts of interests between Bazix, representative of MSX-Association, and the rest of the MRC team, that is more in the non-commercial MSX scene.

Mars2000you: did you know that MSX Association got its name from the fact that it is in fact formed by the Japanese MSX community (you have to forgive the Japanese for their English by the way Wink). And did you know that the main purpose of bringing the MSX trademark and such under authority of MSX Association is to prevent it from being abused by other companies with solely commercial purposes?

Can -anyone- tell me something MSX Association or ASCII have done wrong, by which the community was hurt? Or Bazix? Or MRC (okay, I understand that some think it is wrong to ban GuyveR, but that is not harming the scene (rather is the hassle that is continuously being made out of it, while it is clear from the chatlog that it is hard to have a reasonable conversation with GuyveR about this))?

The only thing the chatlog told me was that Bazix hasn't done anything yet (which is not exactly true either); is that so harmful? I'd say it'd make GuyveR quite happy, as everything Bazix does seems to be utterly wrong anyway.

There is, by the way, a nice parallel between Sunrise, Bazix, MSX Association and ASCII: in order to be able to develop and distribute certain (hardware) products, things need to be done legally. There's no way you can avoid that. I recall a certain mail that became quite an issue after some people thought it necessary to publish it on forums - how do you think Sunrise would react if somebody was putting their stuff for download as freeware? At least Sunrise and Bazix don't differ too much from each other.

Programming a FPGA is not so EASY as you say.........

@Poisonic: I never said it was easy. The only thing I said was that 'one who DOES master VHDL...' could do those things Wink I for one would be totally incapable of inventing a nice SCREEN 9 and code it in VHDL, but I am confident in the fact that there are people who can Smile.

I need to correct one thing here. That quote is a text GuyveR800 wrote in this MSX Posse forum thread.

@BiFi: You're right. But that doesn't harm the thing I wanted to say anyway. You didn't explain, GuyveR did. The relevant point is that someone was explaining it Wink

Por BiFi

Enlighted (4348)

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19-07-2005, 18:17

But why do you bring it up everytime about the CAS? It has no relevance what so ever. like... 80% of the MSX1 games are on cassette, lot's of cartridge software saves to cassette... relevance is about 100%

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