SymbOS MSX multitasking operating system - help needed!

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Por edoz

Prophet (2465)

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24-03-2015, 14:46

Robby wrote:

Hi,

Now that we're talking about the Shell, another question about it. I don't know if it's possible (or asked before) but will it be possible to start .com files from within the shell? For example, recently in symbos 2.1 i did try to start a converted rom game (rom2com) from within the shell environment, but thats currently not possible if i'm right.
It would be nice to play a game in the symbos enviroment, together with the mp3 cartridge playing your favorite music on the background (of course with game music muted) Smile

If your question is if : can i run MSXDOS executables in SymShell than the answer is no. SymbOS is a different Operating system. It is not MSXDOS. So you need .COM files for SymShell.

Por edoz

Prophet (2465)

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24-03-2015, 14:49

NYYRIKKI wrote:
Prodatron wrote:


...showing the test utility, which is loading the homepage of NYYRIKKIs website WWW.MSX.FI .

WOW!!!! That is SO cool!

:D Congrats it seems your website is the first one that is displayed in SymbOS :D

Por Robby

Master (213)

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24-03-2015, 16:16

edoz wrote:
Robby wrote:

Hi,

Now that we're talking about the Shell, another question about it. I don't know if it's possible (or asked before) but will it be possible to start .com files from within the shell? For example, recently in symbos 2.1 i did try to start a converted rom game (rom2com) from within the shell environment, but thats currently not possible if i'm right.
It would be nice to play a game in the symbos enviroment, together with the mp3 cartridge playing your favorite music on the background (of course with game music muted) Smile

If your question is if : can i run MSXDOS executables in SymShell than the answer is no. SymbOS is a different Operating system. It is not MSXDOS. So you need .COM files for SymShell.

Okay, thanks for the answer. But what do you mean with the last part of your answer, can or can't .com files be used?

In general, i know it's a (fantastic) different operating system, but for what purposes can i use symshell in the future (except for networking or dos-like commands).
I know it sounds a bit strange, but is it not possible for example to design someting similar like rundos1, which can be runned on top of msxdos2? Of course, you'd better run your executable from msxdos straight away, but my idea was to run programs simultaniously within symbos(from desktop and or shell). Shouldn't that be possible with a 512 or 1024kb mapper?

Por edoz

Prophet (2465)

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24-03-2015, 17:35

COM files can be used. But only COM files that are developed for SymbOS. So SymbOS COM files will run without problems. Symshell is now more mature. There are a lot of improvements in the last version. Especially on the basic commands

Things like :


[DIR] 		display files
[DIR %h]	display hidden files
[DIR %s]	display system files
[DIR %f]	calculate free disk space
[DIR %p]	pauze
[DIR *.exe]	wildcards filters
[DIR fi*.ex*]	wildcards filters
[CD]		display directory
[CD \]		browse to root directory
[CD ..]		go one directory back
[CD folder]	browse to folder
[CLS]		clear screen
[DEL filename.ext]		delete file
[DEL *.ext]			delete with filter
[DEL fil*.ex*]			delete with filter
[rmdir directory]		delete empty directory
[mkdir directory]		make new directory
[DATE]		display or set date
[TIME]			display or set time
[REN filename newname]	Rename files or directorys
[REN *.TXT *.BAK]		rename files with wildcards
[ATTRIB] filename (Display current settings)
[ATTRIB] filename %-R, %+R, %-H, %+H, %-S, %+S
Add[%+] or Remove [%-] file attributes
H	= Hidden
S	= System
R	= Read only
[COPY source destinstion]		copy files
[COPY source.* destination.*]	copy files using 	wildcards
[MOVE source destinstion]		move files
[MOVE source.* destination.*]	move files using wildcards


are improved a lot! .. Also the speed is amazing. In full screen it is faster (with mass storage device) compare to MSXDOS2. (things like DIR, COPY etc.) Files are sorted automatically in a DIR command.

Indeed with network support in SymbOS we will need more symshell tools. (like telnet or ping or FTP)

Other benefit is that when you have a MSX with less memory you still can use the prompt to do file actions.

I think it would be a difficult task to run a MSXDOS emulator on SymbOS. I know .. we almost forget that we are talking about a 8 bit system Big smile

if you type 'help %p' you get a list of basic commands.

if you type 'help attrib' you get a tutorial about the command

Por MsxKun

Paragon (1115)

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24-03-2015, 20:26

It is nice to see how all evolved. It's a lot lot lot of job!
I only wish the GUI will look different. Instead of ugly Windows style, something new. Smile

Por Robby

Master (213)

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24-03-2015, 23:06

Okay, thanks for the update, Edoz.

RJ.

Por NYYRIKKI

Enlighted (6016)

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25-03-2015, 01:19

Prodatron wrote:

All TCP routines seem to work now, now it's time for UDP to make DNS and DHCP possible.

Naah, I can live this week without UDP, but what is the dox-proxy IP and where do I input it? Wink Tongue

BTW does the SymShell currently support any well known terminal emulation? (VT52, VT100...)

Por Prodatron

Paragon (1836)

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25-03-2015, 17:16

SymShell already has a bunch of control codes, which can do most of the stuff which is required for VT100 etc. SymTEL was prepared for translating the codes/ESC-sequences of ANSI, VT100, VT52 and VTNT into the SymShell codes, IIRC. I have to dig it out soon again, as I want to watch Star Wars on my MSX :D (I wonder if it's fast enought though...)

Por edoz

Prophet (2465)

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25-03-2015, 21:52

I like that starwars telnet session Big smile

Por edoz

Prophet (2465)

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25-03-2015, 21:55

NYYRIKKI wrote:
Prodatron wrote:

All TCP routines seem to work now, now it's time for UDP to make DNS and DHCP possible.

Naah, I can live this week without UDP, but what is the dox-proxy IP and where do I input it? Wink Tongue

BTW does the SymShell currently support any well known terminal emulation? (VT52, VT100...)

Yes !! i agree that the DOX format is the way to go for browsing pages in SymbOS. The internet html now days are way to complex ...

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