The docking station for the PV-7 is optional, it's not part of the computer. So you can not compare it to the 8235.
Hehe, I know, I know; but it's the picture that fits better the size comparative...
SVI produced docking stations too, but for the SVI 8XX series (non-MSX).
You must be talking of the SVI 3x8 series...; if so, I remember the SV-328 expander, my brother had once one of this; but it's gone now
And indeed, the HB-700 it's pretty heavy, I'm trying to clean the case and remove the yellowing of the frontal panel (nasty SONY plastic) of my HB-700 and it's a PITA to move the machine.
You're right, JL: for the SVI 3x8 series there were different expanders. You can check this site to view some interesting pictures and the hardware specs. I specially like the ColecoVision adapter! Sounds cool! Is there anything similar for MSX? I know about the weird Al-Amiah MSX2 computer that is Megadrive (Genesis) compatible oO
Any other MSX docking stations around?
The next question will be "the lightest" and "the heaviest"
The "most heavy" has been discussed in this same thread. About the "lightest", the answer seems to be equivalent the "smallest" answer: CASIO's PV7. It seems to be a calculator on steroids rather than an regular MSX!
I do not include the OCM by the same reason that I do not include any Symbian-powered portable device with fMSX loaded.
Pitpan - like it or not, the OCM is a -real- MSX computer. Just like the turboR (also not fully MSX1 compatible) is. As an FPGA chip can actually run processes parallel in realtime a far higher level of accuracy is possible with far less resources.
ppl might not all agree on the tR being an MSX *cough* casport *cough* Actually this was mentioned in the MCompM review as well. (not that I care a hoot about it)
I love to say this once again: the OCM is an advanced (hardware) MSX emulator with some nice add-ons, like the memory card support and alike. But it is not an MSX as I understand it. It is not an MSX as the standard defines it. Like it or not, but we will have the real proof by checking its accuracy. In any case, it does not add anything to the real machines or a good software emulator (BlueMSX, openMSX).
But I would not dare say that it is not cool. It rocks. But it wasn't, isn't and won't be an MSX so far.
Now you're free to say again: it is an MSX. And then I'll say again: no, it is not an MSX.
Let's continue with our constructive topic!
I don't want offtopic more this topic but, for me, independent from standards, a MSX is any hardware capable to run the Penguin Adventure (e.g. a Laptop with a Gamereader kekekeke
)
Maybe not the hardware, but the licensing determines if something is a real MSX? (well, partly - even if it were officially licensed, it'd be hard to market a toaster as a product of the MSX family, for instance)
The OCM is a HW emulator (albeit one with cartridge slots), but it's officially licensed and follows the MSX standard (minus the infamous cas port, that is ), so you could consider it a real MSX, besides the HW differences.
So, one could perhaps say it's both an emulator and a real msx
Back on topic though, I think it's fair to not include it when talking MSX dimensions. I was also wondering if the SONY HB-700 is larger than a 8250.
that standard was created in the 80's...and fuck that casport right up it's socket,
who on earth needs one now anyway YEAH YOU GOT OLD CASSETTES AT HOME.
As for largest msx: wouldn't that laserdisc msx thing qualify ? or the one with the
videocapture options (with separate station)