MSX Blaster : wrong expectations ?

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Por Meits

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03-11-2019, 16:27

I wonder why that many Moonsound clones have Blaster in their name. All because of that Moonsoft guy Remco (or maybe even Coen) made up the name Moonblaster for their tracker?
If so, guys of FM-Blaster, WOZ-Blaster and MSX-Blaster, see how you confuse the new MSX users Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

Por MarkL

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03-11-2019, 20:29

Very enlightening :-) indeed

So which cart exactly does replay those Moonblaster sounds ?

A Carnivore2 possibly ?

Por Pencioner

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03-11-2019, 21:01

Meits wrote:

If so, guys of FM-Blaster, WOZ-Blaster and MSX-Blaster, see how you confuse the new MSX users Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

Correct. i was puzzled with that naming too, few years ago, hehe (i was not really new MSX user, but returning user who was unaware of all those new audio cartridges)

Por Meits

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03-11-2019, 22:09

MarkL wrote:

Very enlightening :-) indeed

So which cart exactly does replay those Moonblaster sounds ?

A Carnivore2 possibly ?

Carnivore 2 has the MSX-Music part on board but lacks the MSX-Audio part. MSX-Audio is superior to MSX-Music with three more channels, more sound capabilities and samples. MSX-Music has a bit deeper sound.
Moonblaster supports both chips at the same time so if you send each chip to its own speaker you can create a stereo effect.
This clip shows one song played in all Moonblaster modes and has MIDI-PAC and some aftermixing as a 4th bonus. MIDI-PAC sends MSX-Music data to MIDI synthesizers so Moonblaster can control synths as well.

Por AxelStone

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03-11-2019, 22:29

From my point of view, so many different sound chips and all of them independent: PSG, SCC, MSX-Music, MSX-Audio, OPL4... (even OPL3).

The best way to spend your money is to get some flash cartridge that already includes some of them like Carnivore 2 (SCC, MSX-Music) and for the rest, decide if you want to buy them.

Por Pentarou

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03-11-2019, 22:31

MarkL wrote:

So which cart exactly does replay those Moonblaster sounds ?

All in one carts? Gr8net or Flashjacks?

Por Pencioner

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03-11-2019, 22:31

MarkL wrote:

Very enlightening :-) indeed

So which cart exactly does replay those Moonblaster sounds ?

A Carnivore2 possibly ?

GR8NET has both MSX-Music and MSX-Audio on board (and also second PSG and SCC and a MP3 player mode)

Por Manuel

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03-11-2019, 22:35

MarkL wrote:

So which cart exactly does replay those Moonblaster sounds ?

As the Wiki article on Moonblaster says:

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For MSX-AUDIO and MSX-MUSIC, also minimal PSG support

But others have explained in more detail already.

Por Grauw

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03-11-2019, 23:57

Not mentioned yet, there are two versions of Moonblaster (the music composition tracker program):

Moonblaster 1.4, for MSX-MUSIC (Yamaha YM2413 OPLL) and MSX-AUDIO (Yamaha Y8950).
Moonblaster Wave / FM, for MoonSound (Yamaha YMF278B OPL4).

Further confusion arises Big smile.

On a historical note, Moonblaster was published by Sunrise, and when they set out to make an OPL4 cartridge they also used the “moon” prefix for it to associate it with the popular Moonblaster brand. Several years later when the original MoonSounds were no longer produced, MoonSound-clones started to surface, one of them an open source design called Wozblaster. That “blaster” suffix made it into some of the more recent clones as well. But taking them together, it’s understandable that some confusion arises surrounding Moonblaster 1.4 which came long before that and does not support it Smile.

Por MarkL

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04-11-2019, 20:24

One final disturbing question occurs to me. I have an original Japanese cartridge that outputs PSG-Sound via 8250's Cinch connector. I clearly recognise the onboard Yamaha sound chip. So far so good. But any freely available .dsk version of games I have tried with my GOTEK are doing just nothing. They all have designated PSG sound according to the databases. Even with the MSX-Blaster removed there is absolutely no sound from my NMS 8250. What's wrong ?

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