Beat Nemesis 2

Master (192)

08-04-2020, 05:54

I've just beaten #*!@# Nemesis 2 this evening. Took me 5 hours straight of intense nerve wrecking action to beat it on my AX170 without using secondary cartridges or cheats. Only countless deaths in every way possible.
I'm a different human being now.. I also finished Nemesis 1 not too long ago, but Nemesis 1 was children play compared to this damned thing. As a game dev myself, I can never be this cruel to players. The design is both amazing and a piece of art, but also terribly unfair in several sections. Of course this very unfairness is what makes beating the game feel such an achievement. Boy what a ride...

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Por jepmsx

Master (254)

08-04-2020, 07:07

Wow!

You are my hero. I have never been able to defeat any Nemesis without cheating. I also think they are very hard to defeat, maybe that's why they created cheat codes

Congratulations!

Por tfh

Prophet (3347)

08-04-2020, 11:03

Very impressive!
I owned this game as a teenager and played it quite a lot, but never finished it back on those days. After I thought I made it and I had to find out I had to fly back, I switched off my trusty Toshiba HX-10 out of frustration.
At a later age I did finish it, with the help of cheats though. But man... I was impressed with the game and it's SCC music.

Anyway.. congratulations! I can imagine life will never be the same now!

Por Ivan

Ascended (9358)

08-04-2020, 11:08

Salamander is even more difficult! Konami's Nemesis series... all of the games are true pieces of art.

I do remember finishing Nemesis 2 back in the day running a program in Basic published in MSX-Club (Spanish MSX magazine) that simulated Game Master 2. You had to insert the original Nemesis 2 cartridge with the computer switched on! Never had a problem fortunately.

Por Ivan

Ascended (9358)

08-04-2020, 11:13

...and the cartridge was not even mine! (Borrowed from a classmate while I was in high school in the early nineties).

Por Dolphin101546015

Champion (336)

08-04-2020, 13:48

wbahnassi wrote:

I've just beaten #*!@# Nemesis 2 this evening. Took me 5 hours ...

Second Nemesis have one secret ))
Never use Laser and Double!
First weapon is more powerfull.

Now do ZanacEx without jumpers and cheats

Por wbahnassi

Master (192)

09-04-2020, 03:56

Thanks guys! My next stop is Salamander now. Zanac series will follow after the Nemesis series...
Notable things in Nemesis 2:

Enemies scale the ferociousness of their attacks according to your current armament situation. Never seen a game do that before. Keeps the game tough even if you get ridiculously upgraded.
In the Game Over screen, under your Hi Score there is another number below it that I couldn't understand what is it for. Any ideas?
Upgrading your fighter is a bad idea if you plan to die. The extra power slots will push away your chances of reclaiming Options and the Force Field. I won the game by just taking Up Laser because it's essential IMO. The rest can be ignored. I'd say a full ship upgrade is only for the brave who plan to win the whole game without deaths.
As Dolphin mentioned, laser isn't the go to weapon here like in Salamander. The normal beam is the answer for most levels except the living tissue level.
I love all the Metallica references

Now off to Salamander, this time with Nemesis 2 in the second slot...

Por wimpie3

Champion (435)

09-04-2020, 07:20

The number under the score is a checksum of the score. If you took a picture of your high score, you could win a price. The checksum was used to prevent people from cheating.

Por wimpie3

Champion (435)

09-04-2020, 07:21

BTW, I'd love to see a list of the Metallica references.

Por TheKid

Paragon (1238)

09-04-2020, 07:55

How about nemesis 3 first?

Por wbahnassi

Master (192)

09-04-2020, 16:16

@TheKid I thought story-line wise Salamander happens between Nemesis 2 and Nemesis 3, no?
@wimpie3 Thanks for the info! Makes sense to hold contests over such a challenging game.

The Metallica references start with the ship's name and pilot. "James Burton" flying the "Metalion", as appointed by emperor "Lars"! Interestingly no mention of Kirk nor Dave, and I guess this was after Cliff Burton RIP but before Jason appeared in place? Otherwise the pilot's name would've probably been "James Newsted"