Looking for an FM-PAC

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Por snake

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01-06-2020, 15:18

There are lot of proxy services to purchase from japanese sites. The one i'm using has the account fully separated from Paypal account. Probably there are also other services with this feature, so just google a little and check carefully the terms and conditions.

Por snake

Resident (34)

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01-06-2020, 15:49

As for shipping, consider also that you always have to pay custom taxes and internal japanese shipping (to every seller in case of multiple purchases); so, international shipping overhead from private couriers may be acceptable in relation to total cost (especially in case of cumulative shipping).

Por rolandve

Master (218)

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02-06-2020, 14:02

I was lucky. No shipping costs, only customs remaining. DHL as transport carrier, so I hope the package will arrive soon.

Por rolandve

Master (218)

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03-06-2020, 18:31

So, Taxes and VAT is around E50... Thats about insane, but hey "governments exist to steal money from its people"

Por Meits

Scribe (5850)

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04-06-2020, 13:46

That's more than a clone would cost if they weren't out of stock right now.

Por uberjack

Master (255)

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05-06-2020, 02:37

I used DHL to ship from buyee recently. Cost me an arm and a leg, but I did get my copy of Puyo*2.

Por rolandve

Master (218)

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05-06-2020, 09:46

II think DHL is a part of the extreme costs. They claim import taxes are a certain amount and offer a "specification" but that's a bogus made up specification.

Por Grauw

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05-06-2020, 12:44

Meits wrote:

That's more than a clone would cost if they weren't out of stock right now.

Pablibiris has FM-PAC clones for sale on eBay currently: https://www.ebay.nl/itm/FM-MSX-MUSIC/283884669564

Por VegaVegas

Rookie (17)

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05-06-2020, 12:46

rolandve wrote:

I found an FM-PAC for E51 euro's. Ebay currently has one for E161 euro. So that's a big difference. I used my creditcard. They have a better system and insurance. If I dispute a transaction I get my money and they will have to prove that I ordered something. Paypal is not that strict.

What is E51??? Huh what kind of confusing terminology is it, if you mean 51 Euros then this is written just like that. Also I know I will not achieve anything by writing a message like this but I must pinpoint some of my opinions- you seem to be extremely concerned about "frauds" on sellers' side so here is a note- I'm going to defend vendors at this point as they are supposed to charge accounts for the amount that is set beforehand, there is just technically no other way. If your way of living your shopping life is to be concerned whether you can open a dispute or not (which has been very controversial for many years), how easy it is and you open them for any sort of reason or concern then I can tell you one thing- this is not going to work in your favor. In case you weren't aware then disputes also have guidelines to backfire the buyer if necessary. Many online vendors already have very hard time of selling anything online due to insanely strict rules and disputes are hurting everyone's business. Sure you are supposed to be careful though but as long as you buy goods/services from a multi-million dollar company that has been active for at least 5-10 years then seriously, what are you concerned about?

Also I agree that import fees are sometimes ridiculous and it depends on every shipping company. At least there is always some sort of experience

Por Grauw

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05-06-2020, 12:50

rolandve wrote:

So, Taxes and VAT is around E50... Thats about insane, but hey "governments exist to steal money from its people"

rolandve wrote:

II think DHL is a part of the extreme costs. They claim import taxes are a certain amount and offer a "specification" but that's a bogus made up specification.

I had that too recently, I called DHL and they claimed that the taxes were €30 (+€20 tax pre-payment handling) for an item whose value was €50, because "Asian senders often wrongfully omit the shipping costs so customs estimates it by standard DHL tariffs". Which are apparently like €100 even though I only paid €25 or so for shipping. So I ended up paying €125 for a €50 item. Idk how that makes sense.

They told me it wasn’t worth the effort probably to try to reclaim the money because it would be a lot of paperwork and customs would take like 4 months to process it, and it would only save me €18. Would be nice if there weren’t such scammy practices in the first place. If Ali Express can ship a pen with zero shipping cost, why the hell should importing from Japan be so ridiculously expensive. I mean I can understand that shipping is not cheap, but adding 50 bucks on top of that is ridiculous.

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