MSX Emulators having built-in debugger

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Por Unregistered user

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08-04-2003, 20:55

Hi,

I started this subject when writing about user-friendly emulators but I finally considered to start a new thread instead.

The issue is, does anybody know any MSX emulator with built-in debugger running fine on Windows 2000/XP?

I mainly use BrMSX for doing this. As a matter of fact, I'm still on Windows 98 because I use this emulator all the time but itsn't compatible with NT systems.

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Por Grauw

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08-04-2003, 21:36

Afaik, the NO$MSX emulator, like all other NO$ emulators, has a quite extended debugger. However I don't think its emulation is really good, and it's (different from what it's name implies - the developer has no cash, so he needs some Smile) a paid emulator.

But wasn't it in the emulator comparison?
(/me has never seen the comparison at all -_-;Wink.

~Grauw

Por BiFi

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09-04-2003, 08:24

/me suggests you check out the Articles section then Smile

Por anonymous

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09-04-2003, 10:49

AFAIK the No$MSX emulator does NOT work on NT systems, or it doesn't work on mine at least.

Por Guillian

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09-04-2003, 12:59

AFAIK the No$MSX emulator does NOT work on NT systems, or it doesn't work on mine at least.

NO$MSX works on Windows XP. Just execute it in compatible mode for Windows98 / Windows Me.

Por anonymous

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09-04-2003, 16:47

However I don't think its emulation is really good, and it's (different from what it's name implies - the developer has no cash, so he needs some Smile) a paid emulator.No way! NO$MSX is completely FREE! Have you tried it at all? How can you comment on its emulation if you haven't? :/

Por anonymous

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09-04-2003, 18:11

Anyways, NO$MSX seems to be a not 'serious' MSX Emulator.

It would be nice if NLMSX or OpenMSX had a good debugger in the future ....

Por Guillian

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10-04-2003, 00:19

Anyways, NO$MSX seems to be a not 'serious' MSX Emulator.

It would be nice if NLMSX or OpenMSX had a good debugger in the future ....

You should be kidding... or maybe we understand different things about 'serious'. I know NO$MSX doesn't support MSX2+/TR or SCC/FM, but it is one of the fasters (the fastest?) msx emulator, and a a really good (the best?) Z80 emulation.
Some weeks ago I talked to Martin Korth, and he wants to continue improving it, but he needs a FM/SCC and other hardware he doesn't have. Donations are welcome Wink

Por anonymous

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10-04-2003, 03:00

Some weeks ago I talked to Martin Korth, and he wants to continue improving it, but he needs a FM/SCC and other hardware he doesn't have. Donations are welcome WinkHe shouldn't need FM/SCC chips. Both chips are already being reverse engineered very heavily. The SCC implementation in openMSX is currently the most accurate one, I think. And as for FM, the YM2413 emulation in MAME sounds remarkably correct. Both applications are open-source, so it would be a shame to duplicate these efforts...
OTOH, Martin seems to be the kind of programmer that likes to do everything himself and trying to be perfect at that. I can certainly relate to that Smile

Por anonymous

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10-04-2003, 14:03

>>correct. Both applications are open-source, so it would be a shame to duplicate these efforts...
OTOH, Martin seems to be the kind of programmer that likes to do everything himself and trying to be perfect at that. I can certainly relate to that Smile

That's because I cannot consider no$msx as a serious emulator. He prefers to implement bad emulations (VDP, sound ...) or not implement them at all, instead working with other developers together.

Anyway, I've used many times this emulator and the DSX utility, but I simply think that it's far away from NLMSX or OpenMSX.

Por Guillian

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10-04-2003, 16:14

That's because I cannot consider no$msx as a serious emulator. He prefers to implement bad emulations (VDP, sound ...) or not implement them at all, instead working with other developers together.

It seems you are talking about things you don't know. Why don't you ask Martin about his reasons? It really easy to talk nonsenses, but most of the times you will be wrong (like now)

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