King Kong 2: MSX versus Famicom

by hamalech on 01-04-2007, 23:20
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MSX Café have published a comparison between the MSX version of King Kong 2 and the Famicom (NES) version of the same game.

Relevant link: King Kong 2: MSX versus Famicom

Комментарии (18)

By Huey

Prophet (2644)

Аватар пользователя Huey

02-04-2007, 11:57

How on earth can you compare 2 different games? Afaik they have a complete different story and gameplay. Iirc the nes is based on a movie and the msx version is called '2' for copyright reasons.

Maybe I can find out on MSX cafe. But my french is a bit rusty.

By hamalech

Resident (48)

Аватар пользователя hamalech

02-04-2007, 13:58

Of course, but most msx fans don't know the existence of the famicom version.
It' s little review of the 2 versions. I agree the only common thing is the name "king kong 2", release date and developper "Konami".
Wink

By Huey

Prophet (2644)

Аватар пользователя Huey

02-04-2007, 14:04

True. Btw: did you know that there is a korean MSX version of the game in english?

By hamalech

Resident (48)

Аватар пользователя hamalech

02-04-2007, 14:47

NoQuestionQuestion

There's an english and french translation of the japaness rom

By Huey

Prophet (2644)

Аватар пользователя Huey

02-04-2007, 14:49

I once had it. I will try to find it (again). Last time I searched I did not succeed.

By jltursan

Prophet (2195)

Аватар пользователя jltursan

02-04-2007, 21:33

So indeed it isn't a comparison; but a double review. Anyhow, I would like to see real game comparisons between NES & MSX (is there a MSX version better than the NES one?, maybe MSX2?)

By hamalech

Resident (48)

Аватар пользователя hamalech

02-04-2007, 22:19

Yes Metal Gear Msx better than Famicom.
Green beret Famicom better than MSX.Wink

By Huey

Prophet (2644)

Аватар пользователя Huey

03-04-2007, 10:42

MSX Maze of Galious is better than the NES version

By hamalech

Resident (48)

Аватар пользователя hamalech

03-04-2007, 12:11

yes, but graphic is better on famicom.
There's is more action on famicom and more adventure on MSX.

MSX is more interresting.Wink

By hap

Paragon (2021)

Аватар пользователя hap

03-04-2007, 15:12

Small note on Famicom Konami VRC VI and VRC VII chipsets. The site claims (according to Babelfish anyway ;p ) that these chips improve the graphics too, though actually they just make handling graphics easier, in no different way than many other mapper chips. Maybe Konami were just very good at making graphics from MSX experience eh Wink
It's probably also worth noting that these chips were used in a very little amount of games:

VRC VI:
- Akumajou Densetsu (Castlevania III),
- Esper Dream 2 - Aratanaru Tatakai,
- Mouryou Senki Madara

VRC VII:
Lagrange Point,
Tiny Toon Adventures 2 - Montana Land e Youkoso (not using the add-on sound)

By hamalech

Resident (48)

Аватар пользователя hamalech

03-04-2007, 16:22

Vrc6 et Vrc7 were use in japaness famicom "only" due to cartridge slot.
Vrc improve sound with fm synthésis, and the mapper from Video Resource Chip, can be give possible greatest graphics at end.Hannibal

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Memory_Controller#VRC6

By hap

Paragon (2021)

Аватар пользователя hap

03-04-2007, 17:00

What do you mean with "greatest graphics"? it doesn't say that on Wikipedia. CHR (graphics) bankswitching and IRQ counters are very common features on Famicom mapper chips. Smile

By hamalech

Resident (48)

Аватар пользователя hamalech

03-04-2007, 19:17

see difference beetween castlevania 3 jap and us at this link:
http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/Games/cv3foreign.html

".......The Japanese version of this game included slightly improved graphics in some places, and immensely better music (using lots of digitized instrument samples.) While the American version used the very advanced MMC5, it was still not as powerful as the Konami one, and thus things were altered...."

;)

By hap

Paragon (2021)

Аватар пользователя hap

03-04-2007, 20:32

erm Tongue
I think the changes were made because Nintendo of America didn't approve of the original contents, and in some cases (eg. the parallax scrolling in the intro) due to laziness of the porters. Not counting sound, the MMC5 is actually much more powerful than the VRC6. In fact, it's probably the most powerful mapper chip for the Famicom/NES: http://nesdevwiki.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/MMC5

By hamalech

Resident (48)

Аватар пользователя hamalech

03-04-2007, 21:48

Maybe, i'm not a famicom fan (i love konami games concept and their unique gameplay).
In any case we profited of Sound Chip Custom for our MSX, more than Famicom fan's for the vcr6. Tongue

By Samor

Paragon (2030)

Аватар пользователя Samor

04-04-2007, 19:45

SCC's nice, indeed. Allthough not related to KK2, I always hear that technically the SCC is simple. Might be and all that, but I find its sound very characteristic and really nice on the ears. Sadly I don't have an original SD Snatcher or Snatcher with SCC+, I'd like to be able to properly hear the differences between the regular SCC and the SCC+....

By Huey

Prophet (2644)

Аватар пользователя Huey

17-04-2007, 21:45

Finally!!! I found the zemina version of king kong 2 Big smile

Here are some screenshots:

img54.imageshack.us/img54/186/kingkong0001uw0.pngimg235.imageshack.us/img235/5181/kingkong0002vx5.png
img57.imageshack.us/img57/1237/kingkong0006lj6.png

Is this rom original with a translation or has this rom been patched?
The english is very bad so I personaly think this is genuine.

By Samor

Paragon (2030)

Аватар пользователя Samor

18-04-2007, 21:20

looks legit... would love to have the cartridge, but knowing the rarity and this community, it'd cost a fortune Tongue