Capacitor replacement

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By cklayman

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02-08-2013, 02:51

So can somebody recommend capacitors which will last for another quarter century?

By ApolloBoy

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02-08-2013, 03:48

cklayman wrote:

So can somebody recommend capacitors which will last for another quarter century?

I always stick with Nichicon, Panasonic and Nippon Chemi-Con caps.

By SkalTura

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02-08-2013, 06:34

I work for a European repair center that handles a lot of automation and motion parts. What we see for elco's that are over 5 years old (mostly 24 hour operation), is not really that they tend to leak, but that the internal resistance gets a lot higher than when they are new. So the devices become temperature unstable.
Even good quality caps die eventually, so it doesn't really matter what brand you use.

By MFakaNemo

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08-10-2020, 15:54

but what for example, when i don't use my MSX1 that much, only one or two hours a month?
my CX5M from Yamaha is about 30 years old and works flawlessly and I am scared about changings caps.
what do you recommend? how many do i have to change? which caps do you suggest ?

By sd_snatcher

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08-10-2020, 17:02

IMHO, there are two approaches for the capacitors on MSX machines:

1) Well known troublemakers

In this case, preventive maintenance is mandatory. This is the case of:

  • any SMD electrolytic capacitor
  • Yamaha CX5M's C5 capacitor of the power supply
  • Panasonic branded capacitors
  • Nichicon PTH mini-elcos (ex: Sony HB-FXDJ/HB-F1XV FM sound distortion)

And PLEASE use good brand capacitors from well known suppliers whenever you replace a capacitor. That Chinese crap or that fake Nichicon bought on eBay/AliExpress will cause problems in no time.

Note: I'm talking about the old Panasonic branded capacitors here, that were not good. The Panasonic capacitors sold nowadays are of high quality because Panasonic bought Sanyo.
Note2: The capacitors used on Panasonic MSX2+ and TR computers are Rubycon, not Panasonic. They probably changed from their own brand (used on MSX1/MSX2 models) because of the headaches they had.

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2) Well known good boys

In this case, it's best to take the "if it's not broken, don't fix it" approach. Because sh*t happens, no matter how careful you are when doing a full recap.

This is the case of:

  • Rubycon PTH capacitors
  • Nichicon PTH capacitors (normal size, not the minis)
  • Sanyo PTH capacitors
  • Siemens PTH capacitors
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