TriloTracker v0.8 released

Wave morphing is awesome

Sooo... are people already getting a bit interested in the FM version as well, or is everyone celebrating their love of the SCC for the time being?

[update]
Here is a video of the work-in-progress ASM replayer for use in your own projects: http://youtu.be/PqZBM8xk_fA

It's not stable yet. You can hear that there still are some quirks.
The replayer uses its own music format which is generated form the original TMU file using a compiler (windows executable). SO I had to rewrite a lot of code.

@John: Hahaha. That's is not true. I have had some private requests for the FM tracker. The user base of TT goes beyond the generic MSX scene. There is interest from chiptuners who want to play with the OPLL on authentic HW

Just let's finish that last few items on our list and get it released!

Personally I never liked the MSX-MUSIC a lot. I've always prefered SCC and MSX-AUDIO, so yeah, personally I like TT SCC better

Because FM is an important part of the msx legacy and defines all non konami software...

Perceived lack of interest in FM stems from the MSX1-mania of the last decade. Afterall, FM is not associated with MSX1...

BTW, to me it seems really weird to need a Windows executable to convert music to a playable format, when you've written the music editor yourself... Guyver5 worked this way out of necessity (no time to write a music editor back then), not because it's a good idea.

John, Guyv is talking about the tool (C++ program) to create, optimized, music data to be used in own games/demo's.
The VTII converter is for your eyes only

The executable is even weirder as it outputs ASM code instead of binairy data.

I think the reason why people have so much interest in SCC is just because it sounds really good!

Additionally, SCC also has a more unique kind of sound than OPL FM, that’s another reason why I appreciate it. Maybe something else that comes into play is that, in the 90s we’ve been bombarded with FM-music, and it’s been fun, but it’s good to hear some SCC tunes now .

However, I do think that FM also has a lot of unused opportunities, especially when combined with software modulation. In Synthesix, atm I got a bit of boring patch definition and UI work that I need to do, but once I’ve gotten past that I’m looking forward to add FM support and play around with it.

It’s going . Atm a bit stuck in boring parts that are progressing slowly.

Thank you for sharing with us! And good news on the replayer!

Great!

I'll add current (WIP) code of the stand-alone replayer soon.

[Update]
Added the current state of the stand-alone replayer and the compiler tool: https://github.com/cornelisser/TriloTracker-Re-player
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This mainly for the ones that would like to take a peek at the WIP replayer. It's not fully working yet.

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New awesome track Here

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the reason was explained elsewhere...

I am polling periodically the git repository...

@Sinus: Thanks for the compliments . The SCC sure does sound awesome. It has a really nice 'rough' sound to it.

I also agree that FM isn't that good compared to the SCC. But again perhaps an FM version of TriloTracker might solve some of that with it's features. I am still working on the FM version but hope to release it somewhere this year. It would be cool to compete with MicroCabin and Scaptrust too

Expect a major update on git tonight for the compiler and converter.

TT_compile is in Bliz Basic, is there also an exe version to test other songs?
Anyway the SCC replayer seems perfect, what is missing now?

The new zipped exe converts correctly also with adrogynus tmu
Do you plan to include in the replayer also external SCC detection and support ?

In case I could try to include some code I used in uridium and try to send it using github

For now I'm using your code as it is. I only would add some fake pages and code to make the map guesser on bluemsx and openmsx work with your example. I think that the guesser expects 128K minimum for konami scc.
Now in order to make the sample rom work in those emulators
https://github.com/cornelisser/TriloTracker-Re-player/blob/m...
one has to manually select konami SCC mapper.

Last Sjasm 0.42

Some big improvements have been made to the stand alone re-player (and compiler).

We are now doing test after test. Expect a (new) release soon. (https://github.com/cornelisser/TriloTracker-Re-player)

The awaited stand-alone re-player is available:

https://github.com/cornelisser/TriloTracker-Re-player/releas...
http://trilobyte-msx.com/TriloTracker/index.php/TT_Re-Player

That sounds pretty good! And that scroll and graphics too... are you seriously going for Uridium MSX2?

Hi Manuel, the answer is maybe. The spare cpu is scarce and the msx2 sprites very crappy. We will see what I get.
Anyway, ATM the rom works perfectly on openmsx under any msx 2 machine and upper, but on my real msx TR (FS-A1GT) I get a blank screen .... Only the music goes. Needless to say that in openmsx on FS-A1GT it works flawless.
Any idea of what could be wrong ? I can share with you my sources if needed.

Thanks,
Indeed I learned a lot from it. The stand alone replayer is still work in progress and I'm updating it weekly (if not daily) to fix issues. The tracker and replayer are a complete different thing as they run on different data to gain CPU time and RAM/ROM.

Grauw, have you had the chance to test the rom on real HW ? (I updated it)

I'm a bit late to the party (away from the scene for a few years), but I'd just like to leave my 2 cents: TriloTracker is, for me, the best music programming tool for MSX. It has an almost perfect mix of user friendliness and features. It's much easier to use than any other MSX tracker and its feature set rivals and sometimes surpass those of the best MML compilers.

That said, I must say I'm extremely interested in the FM version. I think despite the use of FM technology in other systems, there's something particular to the way programmers and composers used it in MSX that you can immediately recognize as MSX music (except maybe for Compile music in the SMS). I think it shows best when you use it together with the PSG, like Falcom and Micro Cabin did. And I'm sure this would be interesting for people outside the MSX scene, too.

Of course the Holy Grail #1 for me would be combining SCC and FM support in a single TriloTracker version. I suspect this may be impossible for memory or processing reasons, so I'm not holding my breath about it. But it doesn't hurt to ask: would it be possible?

And now for Holy Grail #2: an OPL4 music composition tool with an interface as friendly as TriloTracker's (supporting OPL3 too, of course). I wouldn't bet any money on this, though, looks to be a lot of work and the target audience doesn't seem too big (I would be a fan from day one, of course).

I have a few non-complicated suggestions too, but I have no idea what would be the proper way to contact the authors. I can't seem to find an email address at TriloTracker's page.

Thanks, WYZ, that's awesome. I always get that fuzzy feeling when someone enjoys one of my works. I'd like to release something made with TriloTracker. It's been almost two decades since I last released anything for MSX... Unless we count Knightmare Gold, but then I used a PC tracker to make all tracks. =]

Parn, thanks for the kind words on TT.

You can contact me by email (retrodevelopment -at- gmail -dot- com).

I agree with this, I couldn't really get into any other trackers on msx (except FAC soundtracker like 25 years ago, which were my first steps in music making). Although with MML editors like MusicA you can have psg+scc+fmpac and have more freedom in song tempo, I personally prefer tracker interface over mml editing, so atm TT is the music editor for me. Ive been working on and off on a song in TTFM for a few weeks now, its amazingly fun.

I haven't tested the replayer yet, but I hope to use it in future projects when time comes

There is Moonsound Music Studio by TNI that supports both FM and WAVE part of the opl4. Although its interface is not like TT, for me it was a breeze to get into compared to Moonblaster. This software is still in beta (like TT). I made an short incomplete tune last year but never shared/uploaded it, maybe ill do a youtube vid sometimes.