PSG arrangements of 1980s SID game musics

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By MäSäXi

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03-02-2009, 19:23

Hello SPECTRUMer! Wink

Nice to see Spectrum lover here! Smile

Thanks for your info! Smile I looked through your site for sid AY covers, but I still like to find more... Smile You said most of Commodore 64 classic tunes have been covered on Speccy.. Can you please suggest some site(s) where I can download more sid game tune covers for our dear Ay-chip... Smile Most nice european games were never converted to MSX, so I really like to hear my favourite C=64 songs through MSX too, at last...... Smile

And I like to hear more Commando MAIN theme music in Ay form, if there are more than that Fuxoft´s one, fuxoft´s commando main theme cover is very well done, but as I grew hearing only that C64 original, fuxoft´s version sounds missing something important.... now I have downloaded two Commando high-score AY tunes and like to hear more Main Themes too.... Wink

I really hope you Spectrum guys can solve the problems to play beeper tunes on AY chip. That would be really great moment!! Smile

By poke-1,170

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04-02-2009, 04:50

Holy shit ! it's factor 6 of AY riders Big smile
Dude your tunes rule, from gianna to maximum taste
and the "hung up" cover with TDM ,which I played in dj
sets a couple of times ! Any new AY riders release soon ?

By factor6

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04-02-2009, 08:19

Hi Smile

Well, many of the 128K versions of games had its own music covered from C64, like Thanatos, Thundercats, Auf Wiedersehen Monty, etc. Commando didn't, because it's a game from 1985 where Spectrum 128 didn't exist, yet. Many of the C64 game covers are by Fuxoft (can be found together in his FX-Soundtrack IV for example (http://www.zxdemo.org/item.php?id=2619) but sa you wrote, his covers are missing something) or ripped in other early 90's demos. Note that almost none of 80's musicians used hardware envelopes (typically for bass tones) until Bzyk's Soundtracker came in 1990. The other Commando covers can be found in _some_ early demos, but it would take some investigation to find where are they exactly. If I remember right, a cover of Jeroen Tel's Robocop 3 main tune is in Delayed demo by KVL (http://www.zxdemo.org/item.php?id=2414), a Warhawk cover can be found in Naughty Crew info (http://www.zxdemo.org/item.php?id=3008), Hollywood Poker Pro music is in The Lyra II demo (http://www.zxdemo.org/item.php?id=2861), a Jet Set Willy tune from Atari as well as International Karate, Feud, Ninja Commando or TinTin on the Mood are to be downloaded here ('Games' section): http://xagon.webz.cz/software/software.htm. Many of C64 covers were in demos. For example in MQM series (http://www.zxdemo.org/search.php?search=mqm), you can find some (I remember Cybernoid 2) of them. Demotopia searcher found some Commando cover by David Willis (http://www.zxdemo.org/search.php?search=commando) [I can't hear it now to chceck it here at work ;) ]. Many of C64 game musics have their covers on Atari ST, mostly composed by Jochen Hippel aka Mad Max (can be found at http://sc68.atari.org/).

I've made covers of my favourite Jeroen Tel and some other, mostly musics from demos (can be found on my site http://factor6.ic.cz/music.html). I recommend to look at x-agon's site again for his Definitive music collection (there are some well done C64 covers too).

About AY Riders. We all know that a new fresh album is needed. We have some tunes to put them in, so it's just a question of time when Yerzmyey decides to say 'it's time!' LOL! I'm busy with some beeper tunes at the moment (look at my blog http://f6.bloguje.cz [in Czech]) because I found quite cool 4 channel beeper routine.

By MäSäXi

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04-02-2009, 11:56

Yeah, I meant covers from pre-128K days... Smile

I have to check those demos and tunes you mentioned, one by one, when I have more time... Wink

By poke-1,170

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05-02-2009, 02:32

ah cool Smile last AY riders related thing I heard is yerzmyey's EP on 8 bit peoples and C-jeff's konami album on ubiktune. Had the pleasure of meeting c-jeff when I was in moscow (he did a concert there and I did visuals). I believe he and megus are doing some band thing or so he mentioned.
But yeah, a fresh AY riders release is much appreciated, a lot of people worldwide dig it !
P.s. there is some OPL soundchip cartridge as well for the spectrum, do many people make use of that ?

By factor6

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05-02-2009, 10:18

Not OPL but OPN synthesis via YM2203 (used in Sega Megadrive/Genesis), which is compatible with YM2149 (used in russian Speccy clones). But it's a russian "thing" and nobody has built such an interface here, in "western" Europe, yet. You know, there is a little barrier between European and Russian Spectrumers - language, they can't come to our parties because of visa problems, money, and so on. Even owning a russian Spectrum clone here is quite a rarity. So we advertise firm Sinclair Spectrums as the standard (which surely is) and they have their own ZX clones, mostly partly incompatible with original and with some addons like more memory, Turbosound FM (that's that YM2203) etc. That's btw. why the most of russian demos and games had to be modified to work on standard Spectrums. The result is that we're making our own peripherals (sometimes based on russian schematics) for our Specrums and disk systems. So this is the situation.

For the album - just wait Smile I don't know more that you at this moment.

By Manuel

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05-02-2009, 19:49

What about YM2151? There's way too little tunes for that on MSX at least Smile

By poke-1,170

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06-02-2009, 00:36

well I think you came to the right place, the PSG part of the msx has been a bit underrated, because of the variety of soundchips the msx has to offer. But I think people will enjoy the exchange of ideas and know how from a speccy point of view Smile As for those zx clones, I had a hard time finding any when I was in russia, I know there are many around (like the qvant or something)... only saw one model at a guy's home, but that was about it. You work with a spectrum clone as well, aren't you ?

By factor6

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06-02-2009, 08:54

No, I work on firm Spectrum 128. In Russia, there were many clones and they were mostly hand-made. The most known is a clone called Pentagon, it had many versions which differed by amount of RAM, extension ports etc. The second widespread (we talk about Russia) clone was Scorpion with different timing and the third well-known was Sprinter, which had ISA slots, SIMM RAM, AT sized motherboard, new gfx modes and ability to emulate many other russian clones incl. pentagon/scorpion, even a firm Speccy. You can find quite complex list of zx clones including russian here: http://tarjan.uw.hu/zxclones_en.htm Note that russian clones were never available for the rest of countries. Only Sprinter could be bought via internet order for some time. You can imagine usage of clones simply by looking at map of Europe :) Russian clones were (are) mostly used to the right of eastern Slovak and Polish border - from Ukraine incl. Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia + Russia. To the west from this line there are firm Spectrums and western clones like Timex, Didaktik etc.

I don't know much about MSX, just that it had several manufacturers, has AY and wasn't widespread here at all. So someone who owns MSX here nowadays is just a collector who doesn't use it. MSX wasn't simply popular in Europe (except Netherlands I think), but you know surely more about this topic :)

Btw. does there exist some music tracker for MSX?

By MäSäXi

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06-02-2009, 11:00

Maybe PSG is underrated by 80s to modern day dutch users who had FM chips right from the start, but most of the world didn´t have such luxuries in their MSXs. To be more precise, I never heard about such things until late nineties when I read about them from internet....

I really like to get our dear PSG experimented to it´s limits and far beyond! Smile Wink

By the way, MSX was popular in Finland and Spain too. Smile

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